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[0:43] ..." funding troops there after promising that he would not do so -- Senator Biden and respected you when you call them out on that. You said that his boat was political and you said it would"...
[1:51] ..." down our combat troops ironically the same plan that. Malloch either the Prime Minister Iraq in George Bush are now negotiating the only odd man out here only one left out. Is John McCain number one."...
[3:27] ..." the surge works. Well know when we're finished in Iraq when the Iraqi Government can govern its people. And when the Iraqi Security Forces can secure its people and our commanders on the ground we'll tell us -- those conditions have been met and -- he and talent the Taliban he also in working with us. Our knowing again they were getting closer and closer to that point that victory this within sight. Now you you said regarding senator McCain's military policies they're Senator Biden that you supported a lot of these things in fact. You said that. You wanted to run he'd be honored to run"...
[12:25] ..." McCain Palin administration. Israel is our strongest and best ally in the Middle East. We have got to assure them that we will never allow a second holocaust. Despite again warnings from I ran and any"...
[14:59] ..." I think that is a good thing to get to agree on Senator Biden I respect your position on that no in fact when we talk about the Bush Administration. There's a time to when Americans."...
[15:52] ..." he has been a maverick he has ruffled feathers. But I know Senator Biden you have respected him for that and I respect you for acknowledging that but change is --"...
[0:00]" You both -- sons who are in Iraq -- on their way to Iraq. You governor Allen said that he would like deceit are real clear plan for an exit strategy. What what should that -- governor. I am very thankful that we do have a good plan and the surge in the counterinsurgency. Strategy in Iraq that has proven to work I am thankful that that is part of the plan. Implemented under a great American hero General Petraeus. And pushed hard by another great American Senator John McCain. I know that the other ticket opposed the surge in -- even opposed funding for our troops. In Iraq and Afghanistan. Barack Obama voted against funding troops there after promising that he would not do so -- Senator Biden and respected you when you call them out on that. You said that his boat was political and you said it would cost lives. And Barack Obama at first that he would not do that he turned around under political pressure he voted against funding the troops we do have a plan for withdrawal we don't need -- an early withdrawal out of I -- we cannot afford to lose there. -- we're going to be no better off in the war in Afghanistan either we have got to win in Iraq. And with a surge that has worked we're now down to pre surge numbers in Iraq that's where we can be we can start putting more troops in Afghanistan as we also work with our NATO allies who are -- are -- us and we need to grow our military we cannot afford to lose against al-Qaeda and that she -- street extremists who were still there are still fighting us. But we're getting closer and closer to victory and it would be a travesty. If we quit now in Iraq. Senator."
[1:43]" With all due respect and -- Barack Obama is offered a clear plan. Shift responsibility -- Iraqis over the next sixteen months draw down our combat troops ironically the same plan that. Malloch either the Prime Minister Iraq in George Bush are now negotiating the only odd man out here only one left out. Is John McCain number one. Number two with regard to Barack Obama not quote funding -- troops John McCain voted the exact same way. John McCain voted against funding the troops because the amendment he voted for a voted against. The had a timeline in it to draw down American troops and Johnson I'm mark going to fund the troops if in fact there was a time -- Barack Obama and I agree fully completely on one thing you've got to have a timeline to draw down the troops and shift responsibility. To the Iraqis we're spending ten billion dollars a month. While they Iraqis have an eighty billion dollar surplus Brock says it's time for them to spend their own money. Have the 400000. Military -- for them begin to take thrown responsibility and gradually over six months sixteen months withdraw. John McCain this is a fundamental difference between us we will end this war for John McCain there's no end in sight. To end this war. Fundamental. Difference we will end this."
[3:07]" War governor."
[3:09]" I'm. Year plan is a white flag of surrender. In Iraq. And that is not what our troops. Need to hear today that's for sure that's not what our nation needs to be able to count time. You -- oppose the surge the surge works Barack Obama still can't admit that the surge works. Well know when we're finished in Iraq when the Iraqi Government can govern its people. And when the Iraqi Security Forces can secure its people and our commanders on the ground we'll tell us -- those conditions have been met and -- he and talent the Taliban he also in working with us. Our knowing again they were getting closer and closer to that point that victory this within sight. Now you you said regarding senator McCain's military policies they're Senator Biden that you supported a lot of these things in fact. You said that. You wanted to run he'd be honored to run with the on the ticket and that's an indication I think of some of the sport that you had at least since he became the VP pick here I'm. You also said that Barack Obama was not ready to be commander in chief and I know again that you oppose the move that he made to try to cut off funding for the troops and respect you for that I I don't know how you can defend that position now but. I I know the you know especially with your -- in the National Guard I have. Great respect for your family also. And Dioner that you show our military. Barack Obama though another story there anyway I think it can cut off funding for the troops after promising not to. That's another story senator --"
[4:40]" John McCain voted to cut off funding for the troops police say that again John McCain voted against amendment containing. 1000000600. Million dollars that I had gotten to get and wraps those things that are protecting. This the governor's son and pray god my son and a lot of other Sons and Daughters he voted against it. He voted against that this funding because she said the amendment had a timeline. In it to end this war and he didn't like that. But let's get straight who has been right and wrong John McCain and Dick Cheney said while I would say we would not be greeted as liberators. We would not this war would take a decade not. That not a day not a week not six months. We would not be out of there quickly John McCain Hussein is suing isn't she has got along with each other without reading the history the last 700 years John McCain said there be enough oil to pay for this John McCain has been dead wrong I love him. As my mother would say god love them but he's been dead wrong on the fundamental issues relating to conduct of war Barack Obama has been right. They -- the facts."
[5:47]" Let's move on to Iran Pakistan. Curious about what she's -- nightly news -- about it which is the greatest threat."
[5:53]" A nuclear Iran or an unstable Pakistan explain why."
[5:57]" Well there are both extremely extremely dangerous. I always have focused -- cookware and I've been focusing on for a long time -- Barack on Pakistan. Pakistan already has nuclear weapons. Pakistan already has deployed nuclear weapons Pakistan's weapons can already hit Israel and the Mediterranean. Iran getting nuclear weapon would be very very destabilizing they are more than data are not close to getting a nuclear weapon is able to be deployed. So they're both very dangerous they'd both be game changes but look here's what the fundamental problem I have -- John's policy about. -- instability. John continues to tell us that the central war in the front on terror is in Iraq I promise you. If an attack comes in the homeland it's gonna come Mazar. Our security services said is going to come from al-Qaeda. Planning is in the hills of Afghanistan and Pakistan. That's where they live that's where they are. That's where will come from and right now that resides in Pakistan. A stable government needs to be established we need to support that democracy by helping -- not only -- military but with their governance as well as their economic well being. There have been 7000. Madrassas. Built along that border we should be helping them build schools to compete for those hearts and minds. Of the people in the region so that. We -- that are actually able to take on. Terrorism and by the way. That's where bin Laden lives and we will go at him if we have actionable intelligence."
[7:34]" Nuclear Pakistan. Unstable Pakistan nuclear Iran which account or both are extremely dangerous of course and asked for whom. A term that central war on -- being in Iraq it was General Petraeus and al-Qaeda both. Leaders there and that's probably the only thing that they're ever going to agree on but that it was a central war -- here is in I Iraqi don't have to -- near John McCain on that. I would believe victory is and that leader of al-Qaeda. An arms new -- armed especially I -- is so extremely dangerous to consider they cannot be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons. Period. Israel is in jeopardy of course when we're dealing with -- dinners god as a leader of I ran. I ran claiming that Israel is he termed the stinking corpse. A country that should be wiped off the face of the earth. Now a leader like document in -- who is not seen or stable when he says things like that is not one whom we -- allowed to acquire the regular energy nuclear weapons. R Medina shot Kim Jung Gil. -- Castro Brothers others who are dangerous dictators are ones that Barack Obama has said. He would be willing to meet with without preconditions being -- first. An issue like that taken up by a presidential candidate goes beyond and I gave the tape and goes beyond -- judgment the statement that he made like that. Is downright dangerous. Because leaders like -- damage -- Who would seek to acquire. Nuclear weapons and and wipe off the face of the earth an ally like we have in Israel should not be met with without preconditions. And diplomatic efforts being undertaken first governor and."
[9:14]" Senator wants -- both respond to this secretaries of state baker Kissinger. Powell. Chris Baker they have also advocated some level of engagement with. Enemies. Do you think this these are former secretaries of -- are wrong on that -- doctor."
[9:30]" Henry Kissinger is -- and I had a good conversation with him recently and he shared with -- also. His passion for diplomacy and that's what John McCain and I would engage -- also but again. With some of these dictators. Who hates America and hate what we stand for with our freedoms our democracy. Our tolerance. Our respect for women's rights those who would try to destroy what we stand for cannot be met with just sitting on -- presidential level as Barack Obama had said he would be willing to do that is beyond bad judgment that is dangerous no diplomacy is very important. First and foremost that is what we -- engage and but diplomacy is. Hard work by serious people. It's -- now clear objectives and having your friends in your allies radiated back -- there and have sanctions lineup also before any kind of presidential summit would take place senator."
[10:25]" Until I can I clarify access to simply not true Bob Barack Obama. He did not say sit down about who do the job. The fact of the matter is it surprises me that Senator McCain doesn't realize that -- we didn't John does not control the security apparatus in -- race. The theocracy controls the security apparatus number one number two. Five secretaries of state did say we should talk with -- sit down. Now John Governor Palin now say they're often a passion I think afraid who has a passion for diplomacy. And that we have to bring our friends and allies and our friends and allies -- sit down. Talk talk talk. Our friends and allies have been saying that five sectors -- three of those Republicans. And John McCain has said he would go along with an agreement but he wouldn't sit down. How do you do that when you don't have your administration sit down. And talked with the adversary and look what President Bush did after five years he finally sent a high ranking diplomat to meet the highest ranking diplomats and ran. In Europe to try to work out an arrangement. Our allies are on that same page and if we don't go the extra mile when diplomacy what makes you think the allies are going to -- with -- we're on the John McCain said as recently as a couple weeks though he wouldn't even sit down with the government of Spain."
[11:46]" A NATO ally. That has troops in Afghanistan with -- I find that incredible. You mentioned Israel support for Israel what has this administration done right or wrong this is the great lingering unresolved issue of Israeli. Palestinian conflict what have they done."
[12:05]" There is a two state solution a solution. A two state solution is the solution and Secretary Rice having recently met with some of leaders on one side or the other they're also still in these waning days of the Bush Administration trying to -- that peace and that needs to be done and that will be top of an agenda item also. Under McCain Palin administration. Israel is our strongest and best ally in the Middle East. We have got to assure them that we will never allow a second holocaust. Despite again warnings from I ran and any other country that would seek to destroy Israel. That that is what they would like to see we will support Israel a two state solution building our embassy also in Jerusalem. Those things that we look forward to being able accomplished with this peace seeking nation and they have a track record of being able to forge these peace agreements they succeeded with Jordan. They succeeded with Egypt. I'm sure that we're going to see more success there also it's gotta be commitment of the United States of America though and I can promise you going to McCain Palin administration. That commitment is there to work with our friends in Israel. Senator."
[13:15]" No one in the United States senate has been a better friend Israel until -- I wouldn't never ever join this ticket or not absolutely sure Barack Obama shared my passion. But you asked a question about whether or not this administration's policy it made sense or something -- effect. It has been an abject failure. This administration's policy in fairness this Secretary Rice she's trying to turn around now in the seventh or eighth year here's what the president said. When we said no he insists. On elections on the West Bank when I said and others said and Barack Obama's a big mistake. Hamas will warn you legitimize what happened Hamas won when we kicked along with France we -- Hezbollah out of Lebanon. I said and Barack said move NATO forces in their fill the vacuum because you don't know if you don't. Hezbollah. Will controlling know what's happened Hezbollah is a legitimate part of big government in. -- country immediately to the north of on Israel. The fact of the matter is the policy of this administration has been an abject failure and speaking of a freedom be in the -- the only thing on the march is arranged. Is closer to a bomb is proxies now have a major stake in Lebanon as well as in the Gaza Strip with Hamas. We will change this policy with thoughtful real live diplomacy that understands. That you must back Israel and letting them negotiate. Support their negotiation and stand with him not insist on policies like this administration --"
[14:51]" This administration has also been an abject failure to senators as governor. No I do not believe that it happened but I'm so encouraged -- that we both of Israel and I think that is a good thing to get to agree on Senator Biden I respect your position on that no in fact when we talk about the Bush Administration. There's a time to when Americans. Are going to say enough is enough with your ticket on constantly looking backwards and pointing fingers and and doing the blame game there had been huge blunders in the war there have been huge blunders throughout this administration as her -- in every administration but. For ticket that wants to talk about change and looking into the future there's just too much fingerpointing actress to ever make us believe that that's where you're going. Positive changes coming out reform of government is coming well learn from the past mistakes in this administration. And other administrations. And -- forge ahead with putting government back on the side of the people and making sure that our country comes first. Putting obsessive partisanship aside that's what John McCain has been known for in all these years he has been a maverick he has ruffled feathers. But I know Senator Biden you have respected him for that and I respect you for acknowledging that but change is --"
[16:03]" It's look past is prologue -- The issue is how different is John McCain's policy going to be the George Bush's. I haven't heard anything yet. I haven't heard how his policies can be different on -- Rand and George Bush's I haven't heard -- was policy going to be differed. -- George questions I haven't heard palace policy and Afghanistan is to be different than George Bush's I haven't heard that was policy in Pakistan is going to be different than George Bush's it may be. But so far it is the same as George Bush's and you know where that policy has taken us."
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