Interview with author of "Slaying the Dragon"

[1:46]" David our time is almost up and I -- really wanna get to some good questions so bear with -- Because we really haven't told people who you -- David you're successful CEO right."

[2:33]" So you're successful CEO with people may not know is that -- also an ex -- You're you're you're convicted felon."

[2:42]" I don't. Were so. I was about border. In my early twenties and our export a lot of money that the belong to men -- from various banks and savings and loan institutions. There and are there are actually occurred Marcel Arum. But -- Serb. All federal and state time and was released in August of 1980."

[3:07]" Tonight. Did you rob banks at gunpoint."

[3:11]" No no what was so white collar. I did it with a pen and paper."

[3:16]" Okay okay and how much time did you serve."

[3:21]" A little bit over two years. -- served time in the -- system and an air crew was released from some role. The state of Ohio they also want a piece submit."

[3:31]" Let me to steal and how much did you steal why did you do it then and Hannity changes a person so dramatically."

[3:38]" Well. -- you know I think that most crimes are. -- necessity. Or you know a Larson was greeted I think mine was more of the curiosity. The that was possible. Two to gain access to banks and savings and loans. Under identity is that we're completely fabricated. And in terms of how much money. You know it would probably several 100000 dollars. Obviously didn't keep a larger. But you know what I do that I don't thing. Is less Shirley them not -- arm. Trying to get -- I think it's -- of you know what I did so and in the ability of anybody to be able to color white -- remember what they have done in the past yoga. The future does not equal the past the end people couldn't certainly current electoral arm and lived on the insults. And you know what what motivated me. One I heard -- Monica back to prison. But certainly a real good motivated it was my mom. You're really disappointed by in my home insurance -- wonderful. While woman might best foreign. And it was important to me to. To turn over responsibility can't hurt her -- him and become the person that she called -- could become."

[5:04]" did she live long enough for her to see -- incredible success and how you did accept blame and turn your life around."

[5:11]" Well she. We we lost her in the early 1990s. But she's. You know. Upon my release are the going to school and work them in became. Our commercial parliament Delaware pilot certificate and ratings. In embarrassed -- a long career in corporate aviation flying literature and social citations. So she was able to see. My successor and aviation. You know and she felt that this -- real bragging rights all the -- toast. -- her son had become an airline transport parlor. Then. You know sort -- so I think that you know every mom. In. You know they hold their trial -- for -- they have been going so well what their child can become -- I think the person's. Greatest accomplishment in life is to be able to -- their mom their dream. Arum yes I was able to do that nobody curriculum and if any and that is more gratifying. Than having been able to hear my -- program."