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[0:14] ..." mall in -- of shopping mall in Nashua, New Hampshire. Doctor and Jamie Foxx at Northeastern University where he teaches law policy. And society. Is -- via the defense here. I can't imagine what they would possibly. Be able"...
[6:18] ..." A professor of Fox's in its creditors in fact the ringleaders that was being alleged donated in the woods so much more to learn as this process goes forward. We do know the"...
[9:05] ..." Virtually everything was cut out of the budget that dealt with youth crime prevention. Now is what happens is something like this happen Massachusetts's a couple of years would look back and say well we cut the budget. Only at a time it's like we're so there's lots of things we can do -- things work we know that -- Yet unfortunately these days. We're cutting budget what we know we were able to bail out that date the bank industry we're able to bailout the auto industry may lead to bail out for at risk --"...
[9:36] ..." Professor nationally noted professor of criminal justice at Northeastern University. Jamie Foxx. "...
[0:00]" It's on the community the home invasion machine the murder of a young New Hampshire woman. In her bed. At the revelation. That within hours the alleged killers sold some over jewelry. At a mall in -- of shopping mall in Nashua, New Hampshire. Doctor and Jamie Foxx at Northeastern University where he teaches law policy. And society. Is -- via the defense here. I can't imagine what they would possibly. Be able to offer but we are hearing from you know some the criminologist. That these individuals were troubled and that -- cried out for help before with some of their actions."
[0:42]" Well they may have couple -- criminal absolutely nothing. The level we saw our Sunday in New Hampshire. Actually understand that the crime like this you looked not someone -- back of the kids but the relationship among the kids. And situations like this the victim becomes a -- to their own. Efforts to. To kill each other their their their bravado they might manhood back they're the crime is more an act -- each other. Then and it and wait eliminated victim. It made it it's a very violent vicious woman male bonding each child in each youngster here is trying to prove their loyalty to their friends. And there and their power. In the eyes and appears to -- it was more important to understand the relationship and that's a look at it back."
[1:37]" What will refer to them as soon as you just didn't two trial as child. Four young man or youngster. Is said that's what did diminish the good the gravity of the crime the brutality of the but the offense."
[1:50]" Know that the description describing the -- youngster. It ethnic characters of the perpetrate eager to describe in this the the crime act not the act. Unfortunately. Youngsters teenagers even children have at -- committee -- basis of crimes. Which is why of course so many people want. Try juveniles as adults -- but we have to understand. That. Seventeen year old 88 you know even ninety girls they made. Act like adults they may look like adults and dressed like adults in the -- like adults but they. Really -- it's there and oftentimes crimes like this occur because they immaturity -- are trying to justify. Auto excuse. What happened. I'm just trying to explain that when you took fourth or who like minded individuals to get other. They won't do things in concert. That they would never do on their own. Again not a -- not an excuse. But to understand how the -- crimes can occur. When -- put several people together who would each trying to show how loyal and powerful they are. To difference."
[3:03]" So it was sort of defense. Could they possibly."
[3:07]" Well there's there's really no defense in terms of guilt or innocence. But what happens in this kind of case -- that it is in the penalty phase if it is when. Two. To. Use this issue group dynamics and as a way to lessen. The public's ability or more are our level of culpability here. That. You're obviously punishing individuals but -- responsibility here. Lies in the group dynamics. And police some advocates who -- followers and this is not. In character with what they. -- That they all deserve punishments should they be found guilty but the level appointment made it should. Reflect the fact that that. They were being influenced by the group effects as much as by their own tendency. To think what happens between is that this is one of the leader which. Here is perhaps to be -- Enjoyed the fact he had others who are willing to follow his lead. Whereas the followers. They are excited about the fact that they're being praised by someone they admire. Put their -- So it's really big the group -- group dynamic that explains why it's kind of crime happens. As opposed looking back -- though that it was the press in this. This it was abuse -- this kind of individualistic explanations."
[4:36]" The estate in New Hampshire is accusing them of murder in the first degree which is premeditated murder however unless we learn something more than we've learned thus far. Perhaps their views of may have been a sexual component to the so that apparently has has not been established yet. I would not meet the standard of capital murder in New Hampshire and thus these individuals would not be subjected to. Capital punishment now and and admittedly. Unscientific and frankly. And intellectually. They irrelevant. Poll question that we put up on our website. A vast majority of moralist as say. Put to death if their found guilty they deserve."
[5:14]" That is surprising that's an indication crimes like this. That's how a public field but. It's not necessarily the right solution. It's. And it doesn't save the state of New Hampshire money like some people believe that why waste the money by keeping imprisoned because. The cost of prosecuting someone for deficit death penalty is exorbitant. It. It's much higher than the cost of keeping people behind -- behind bars polite is -- appealed for. Costly if the prosecution itself and -- that I would prosecution case the level of safeguards. That are built into the law. Are elaborate and extremely expensive. Norton as the death penalty and -- because 70809. Funeral it. They -- more concerned. With the reactions and their responses appears to. Now what criminal justice system do them more. If people think that that rule make kids think twice well. Acted come -- don't even think once."
[6:18]" A professor of Fox's in its creditors in fact the ringleaders that was being alleged donated in the woods so much more to learn as this process goes forward. We do know the baby has fairly substantial criminal record a lot of the stuff the balding. Drugs -- stolen property but also an accusation that he held his girlfriend hostage in the trunk of his car. -- wildly -- a time and it's somebody. And if he was accused of these things in process by the police and back out on the street isn't there some fault there as well."
[6:46]" Well it's very easy to point fingers but this."
[6:49]" How much publishing you have to do how many warnings signs today that there have to be. Before a woman asleep in bed has her throat cut with a machete."
[6:58]" There -- indications in the past that he has. Obviously -- to fairly consistent criminal record nothing of course. And a degree of evictions myrtle like this. But threatening to double that higher aren't. No reprehensible. Does not rise in the level that we Gary fine it's the people who -- in prison. And slightly doing illegal we're looking backwards what we know how the outcome as we know that the murder occurred. And that we're going back and looking for all those warning signs and precursor isn't saying how look at all these things or less. Perhaps if the criticism acted differently. Well. We have the benefit of hindsight. If you take a group of kids who commit crimes. Like -- apparently had in the past you'll find lots -- kids. Who grow up just -- and do not graduate."
[7:52]" So what is society's protection and against. This sort of criminal anti social totally unacceptable behavior. Inexcusable behavior what what we do to protect ourselves to protect the mother and child. Asleep on a country road at 4 o'clock -- Sunday morning."
[8:09]" Of course that no 100% guaranteed the matter what we do because they're crimes like this committed by kids -- first offenders. Not a not a so repeat offenders. What if it's any consolation is certainly none. -- victims here is that these crimes are exceedingly rare. Not pick homicides in a -- it is certainly not that this kind of successes viciousness committed by fourteen against one that -- it doesn't happen occasionally. But not with great regularity and -- the -- I think that we can do to improve. Our schools to improve our our intervention programs with troubled -- The -- things we can and should do but when it comes down to it oftentimes those efforts are our. Caught when budgets are tired looking at the -- in Massachusetts where is that in this state budget because the economic situation. Virtually everything was cut out of the budget that dealt with youth crime prevention. Now is what happens is something like this happen Massachusetts's a couple of years would look back and say well we cut the budget. Only at a time it's like we're so there's lots of things we can do -- things work we know that -- Yet unfortunately these days. We're cutting budget what we know we were able to bail out that date the bank industry we're able to bailout the auto industry may lead to bail out for at risk --"
[9:36]" Professor nationally noted professor of criminal justice at Northeastern University. Jamie Foxx. "
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