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[0:00] ..." Speaking with John chairman Center for International Studies at MIT the international community obviously with great concern now. A second secretive. Nuclear enrichment facility has been disclosed the push me pull me"...
[0:29] ..." community the west talks about sanctions. We would have to have. In international consensus and he very hard line that would not be eroded in order for these sanctions to have any effect -- from wrong."...
[1:03] ..." The united nations Security Council course China and Russia two of your bigger players in. Russia and China are very interested in getting -- their oil there"...
[2:15] ..." India including pipelines gas pipelines. Those countries want to build in the United States is blocking Pakistan it's a little less. Clear that there is the really important relationship at this point that affects these other"...
[3:00] ..." is that US intelligence maintains that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program what they're probably trying to do. Uses what other countries have done in the past and that is to -- A capability that looks like -- could become a weapons program but actually is not that is they get the the virtual. Deterrent capability -- or influence without actually doing the -- and"...
[3:52] ..." allow him to walk away from the talks -- to school the United States for its bad behavior and other places like -- Afghanistan because that helped him at home with his domestic politics and right now in the very narrow -- in the -- on there so the United States has -- be very nimble diplomatically. To -- around the table but not allow Ahmadinejad. To declare -- some sort of victory"...
[0:00]" Speaking with John chairman Center for International Studies at MIT the international community obviously with great concern now. A second secretive. Nuclear enrichment facility has been disclosed the push me pull me politics and the Saber rattling seems to be out of the North Korean playbook if you will fire off a couple of missiles were under this -- that -- you know maintain our nuclear ambition and so the international community the west talks about sanctions. We would have to have. In international consensus and he very hard line that would not be eroded in order for these sanctions to have any effect -- from wrong."
[0:43]" The sanctions have not been very effective but it there's a debate about whether or not there at the right sanctions. It's there of course in the and whether they've been. Applied uniformly. You have Russia China etc. who don't wanna play by that set of rules and and that makes sanctions very difficult to close."
[1:03]" The united nations Security Council course China and Russia two of your bigger players in. Russia and China are very interested in getting -- their oil there fossil fuel primarily from Iran and so is that one of the reasons that they perhaps don't wanna play ball on on maintaining a hardline."
[1:22]" We're trying to get petroleum from the Persian Gulf States in a big way so does Japan. India other Asian countries Russia has actually the largest. Reserve. Oil and gas outside the police have their they're more interested in a strategic relationship with Iran including selling them nuclear power technology so they're different motives at work here."
[1:44]" What about neighboring states immediately to the east India and Pakistan. Did they figure into this at all."
[1:51]" India and be major hell. In the region and indeed. Countries like Saudi Arabia Kuwait are looking toward India forcing some security cooperation. Very large Indians. Worker presents guest workers in the gulf and so on so there are. Burgeoning relationships. Between. The gulf states including Iran and India including pipelines gas pipelines. Those countries want to build in the United States is blocking Pakistan it's a little less. Clear that there is the really important relationship at this point that affects these other issues but I think the more important. Players really -- our our Russia. And China as far as the ability to penalize. Iran ports misbehavior."
[2:41]" And one last question here what would. Hurt Iran they seem to be quite content sitting on vast reserves of oil and to learn how to run there centrifuges. Upon nuclear ambition what can the west do that would put a crimp in their stuff."
[2:58]" Two things to say about this one is that US intelligence maintains that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program what they're probably trying to do. Uses what other countries have done in the past and that is to -- A capability that looks like -- could become a weapons program but actually is not that is they get the the virtual. Deterrent capability -- or influence without actually doing the -- and that's probably where -- still not a good thing because -- provocative and Israel and possibly some of the other gulf states -- going to -- sanctions on the other hand have not proven to be particularly. Effective so we're a little bit of a -- I think -- a bit of a cat and mouse game I think what you want to do in the talks coming -- is -- Ahmadinejad. -- win. In the talks that is not to allow him to walk away from the talks -- to school the United States for its bad behavior and other places like -- Afghanistan because that helped him at home with his domestic politics and right now in the very narrow -- in the -- on there so the United States has -- be very nimble diplomatically. To -- around the table but not allow Ahmadinejad. To declare -- some sort of victory for him for himself and his leadership."
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