The governor's choice

[1:26]" Well I think it was senator is going to represented Massachusetts. At the interest in Massachusetts. What he believes that before -- step approach to protect Kennedy had a close intimate friend of the senators. The senator would do in the situation. If if it turns out and right now I think he. Indeed the it is not likely. If it turns out that the Senate goes toward sixty vote majority his -- gonna matter a great deal. On health care reform if they did at 51 votes that is blessed -- having another Democrat in the for the Republicans knowing that. It's a fait accomplish that there's going to be some. -- and democratic plan put forth. It makes a difference but then again would argue that a guy who spent -- at least it's substantial portion. He is. Professional career in government in politics of Washington DC knows the city well and show will -- you understand if you will. The east -- And the culture of DC."

[2:21]" Michael you were very close to with a Mike Dukakis. Was he counting on this."

[2:26]" I don't think my two packets count on anything. I think at that. He would have been a terrific choice -- marketed -- the problem is is that sometimes you have to the project is only one job. I think that Michael Dukakis. Very comfortable Ed -- who is what he's chosen to be his life's work. What you'd get it done in terms of education in terms of going it's sort of just -- and so would just sit there and I kept was correct absolutely. If he had a wake up tomorrow morning at -- got my life is back plea because I didn't on the Internet that senator for a hundred days they'll we know."

[3:01]" Finally what about the influence of the Kennedy family in whispering in the governor's ear that Paul Kirk ought to be the one that -- just how old. Useful and how legitimate is that."

[3:13]" Well they have every right as -- as does anyone that -- give the government their opinion you know clearly their opinion mattered because again it. It you know whether. One thinks. That that should have been the candidate that the candidate wants to weigh in with the person they that the content would want in his seat and again I I I did not and he's the governor at this decision. In early on he made a comment that the debt that. Provoked a certain amount of of of apartment when he said. You know this is not a political they'll probably needed well the truth is that this is always -- and remember it wasn't just Michael Dukakis and end and that it -- cracked the people -- for a woman to sell the seat to the people advocating reforms state legislators to fill the seats. So a lot of people liken it to a -- its -- person and ultimately in the end you know -- cracked. No Washington. On -- the Senate. Again who knows the culture. And we're talking about electing. Somewhat in January it was gonna have to do the job. In the years to come that's what we got to keep our focus."