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[0:02] ..." can call it this morning. After the federal indictment by a secret grand jury in the announcement by the United States attorney's office more than thirty counts. The former speaker of the Massachusetts house the third consecutive speaker of the Massachusetts house not"...
[2:51] ..." reform to come from the house and from the Senate. Business helped Deval Patrick -- the dated Italy's only allegations at this point but business helped Deval Patrick get that done."...
[3:14] ..." when American bad apples now that said. The real question is will Deval Patrick is that this part of his reelection strategy is already shown. And he's started to run against the legislature now he's been handed the weapon to do just that. That you can see where he will now use this to try to get his reform package. Past and went against the legislature. To secure his own reelection as governor you know the Republicans are going to use it you know the Republicans. Nominee for governor whoever that will be in sixteen months. Well he is that's the question is will Deval Patrick is and you've got to believe he's going to."...
[3:47] ..." Charlie when that Mitt Romney was governor seldom Macy was thought by many to be the most powerful single most powerful individual. In state government ruling with a iron fist which is something that speakers of the Massachusetts house. Do with the with some relish and the not a president and his case obviously. If if in fact there's something to of these allegations from the feds. About the software deal with cardinals. Which by the way that that company which has been acquired by IBM and all the money has been paid back the contracts canceled the money returned. At least the money that the state paid."...
[5:01] ..." on behalf of the speaker. I can tell you because I know Mitt Romney this wouldn't have happened -- a Romney administration. We are -- under the rock -- which I Charlie did did it --"...
[0:00]" That the Macy corruption case that's what we can call it this morning. After the federal indictment by a secret grand jury in the announcement by the United States attorney's office more than thirty counts. The former speaker of the Massachusetts house the third consecutive speaker of the Massachusetts house not to be brought up on federal charges. And WBZ political roundtable has convene this morning Marion -- Democrats and the Republicans. Charlie Manning and the question is. Is this a sort of culture of corruption. On Beacon Hill is the speaker's office hard wired for malfeasance when we start with the human --"
[0:37]" Well I have to -- the indictment themselves. Are not a surprise to anybody who -- state -- politics but look say that the scope and the systematic approach that was taken. To use public funds for private gain is breathtaking in now you have to ask yourself. Whether there's a bigger problem there and and we might have thought before."
[0:55]" Meaning other cases and other people."
[0:58]" Well you have the Diana barker and Kate out there as well I wouldn't -- all of these cases together but when you look at the Diane workers in case you look at this indictment. You have to question what really is going on at the Statehouse I don't think obviously it's not fair to. Paint a broad brushed over every state -- and every state senator -- obviously don't think that's the case but when you look at those two examples is something very wrong."
[1:21]" Charlie there's how lopsided the balance of power under the golden dome the Democrats run the show have for years. And now have for the governor's office as well that there's any suggestion whatsoever. That that part of of state government has it been besmirched by this. But it it really speaks poorly for a Massachusetts government doesn't."
[1:41]" It's become a tradition from Massachusetts now it seems you've become speaker of the house you wind up getting indicted. And these are really serious charges side I'd urge anyone who has a few minutes today to hop on line in get a copy of the indictment you can find it all over the Internet and read it and think about what's been going on in our state government. That the pool league didn't pay offs were being made over 50000 dollars. For multi multi million dollar contract. It's a terrible situation. And the arrogance of the people involved especially speaker to make the think these are the type of things which is the type of money we should have been getting all along it just speaks the whole mind that a Beacon Hill. In it would keep sending the same folks back there time after time after time. We shouldn't be surprised if history repeats itself time after time after time."
[2:39]" the governor has said and he sort of hinges on his approval or disapproval. Of the state budget. Which itself is is another whole story in a very complicated one that he is demanding reform to come from the house and from the Senate. Business helped Deval Patrick -- the dated Italy's only allegations at this point but business helped Deval Patrick get that done."
[3:01]" Yes and it at first I want to thank. That the vast majority of people who are they reps and senators worked very hard every day for not a lot of money that's the troubling part about it is that everybody gets. Painted in the same broad brush when American bad apples now that said. The real question is will Deval Patrick is that this part of his reelection strategy is already shown. And he's started to run against the legislature now he's been handed the weapon to do just that. That you can see where he will now use this to try to get his reform package. Past and went against the legislature. To secure his own reelection as governor you know the Republicans are going to use it you know the Republicans. Nominee for governor whoever that will be in sixteen months. Well he is that's the question is will Deval Patrick is and you've got to believe he's going to."
[3:47]" Charlie when that Mitt Romney was governor seldom Macy was thought by many to be the most powerful single most powerful individual. In state government ruling with a iron fist which is something that speakers of the Massachusetts house. Do with the with some relish and the not a president and his case obviously. If if in fact there's something to of these allegations from the feds. About the software deal with cardinals. Which by the way that that company which has been acquired by IBM and all the money has been paid back the contracts canceled the money returned. At least the money that the state paid. Whether any of this alleged -- money was was returned it still has to be determined. The but all of all of this is is sort of prelude to and my question. -- how we. Have more open government of the most people didn't even know about this the fifteen million dollar contract that there apparently NF granted for. The some way for the state to track where there was being productive and."
[4:47]" Well that that this is the big problem when you have the gains going on at the Statehouse and very theories gained in fact. It was the governor according to the indictment own deputy chief of staff who was pushing this contract on behalf of the speaker. I can tell you because I know Mitt Romney this wouldn't have happened -- a Romney administration. We are -- under the rock -- which I Charlie did did it -- and it is our during the Republican administrations it's that. It was this contract was pushed to rule under the under. Patrick administration been infected name of the chief of the deputy chief of staff -- outlined in the indictment. So you know -- ones that pushed it through and I don't think you see that happening in and that the situation."
[5:34]" Our -- our time our time assured -- let me just bring up a couple of things -- double -- and Experian a comment first. This is all about a software iTunes software contracts with cardinals. What about the ticket brokers. Another thing at the Boston Globe investigative. Story wrote about the Richard Vitale -- accountant adviser fund raiser for the speaker. Was also involved in tried it too -- with floats into shape for. What about legalized gambling in the state something that the speaker and the governor found themselves on opposite sides of the craft table from. Marianne his or money there."
[6:08]" I don't think anyone has any idea but I think what you wealthiest people now go back and look at some of these other issues. You have to believe if the feds or anyone else. Had any evidence they would've brought it forward as not to say they may not and they won't. But when you look at how broad and sweeping indictment went yesterday and it did start under the Romney administration in April of 2005. You would think they'd bring it forward so. Obviously and opens up a whole lot more questions about anything they were am involved with."
[6:36]" We cancer Charlie you surprise. And I'm not surprised that all we all thought what was going on with the ticket indictment we note that the speaker was an honest about that that he hasn't been honest about this contract. And now he's going to be facing -- day in court with the jury of people from Massachusetts who were born to be deciding his future and it doesn't look like a very bright future to."
[6:57]" Me at all Charlie Manning Marianne Marshall or virtual political round 2 will this morning the morning after the indictments against seldom -- associates. Thanks very much both of --"
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