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[0:16] ..." was in downtown crossing for the celebration he spoke to the first gay couple to get a marriage license Marcia hams and Susan shepherd. I don't. College."...
[1:07] ..." Most couples straight couples have experienced when they go to their net wedding ceremony -- their relationships. With other people and that something very new for us. And Susan the same questions I'm."...
[7:36] ..." great life or you know growing up -- and and then Cambridge. But these are the things that would. You would experience every day something something that you had to make a decision about."...
[0:00]" Sunday marks the fifth anniversary of gay marriages in the bay state the advocacy group mass equality is celebrating the anniversary early releasing a poll that suggests acceptance of gay spouses has climbed 10% during that time. WBZ TV's bill shields was in downtown crossing for the celebration he spoke to the first gay couple to get a marriage license Marcia hams and Susan shepherd. I don't. College."
[0:26]" Then going wonderfully we've had a great great 32 years and a great fighters and were able to marry. Legally that mirrors did hop pocket descriptions. That did it. Didn't change anything yes it really did I don't think we expected to. Because we've been so long together and raise a son together and but to have the whole state saying that your marriage was. Your relationship with acknowledged. Really it's a great deal and then to have the whole community share. Within the month that field. As a family is very different and that's something that I think. Most couples straight couples have experienced when they go to their net wedding ceremony -- their relationships. With other people and that something very new for us. And Susan the same questions I'm."
[1:20]" channel yeah and once again I was really surprised us with you because. You keep. It really does awoke -- we knew that I can't with the state thought about me. And here we worried about being able to get married and you need to register as well."
[1:38]" These people support me and I know it's a great legal list is staying put at the bottom of -- and particularly as C."
[1:45]" Constitutional conventions went on and I that the state doesn't do just that these wonderful things in these wonderful transformations. You could just feel that while they're getting this whole level. I never thought people to get them. And immediately in what it did was it maybe more of myself and it is you know you. You'd go to word into -- saying and you -- in the air but an entirely. Andersen's little holding that could happen. And I felt it. In every -- of just being more of myself and able to."
[2:21]" The other pretty gregarious person. Is -- at Philly the world got the benefit of me."
[2:28]" And I'm sure a lot a lot of other people in excess -- reason."
[2:32]" And I emotionally must be."
[2:39]" Emotionally must be good gratifying and also. For lack of a veteran legitimizing. That okay the state acknowledged you any and now your emotions can. -- let -- you can do it you know."
[2:53]" Absolutely and end or think about the way feel -- way. You know we felt that we are wedding and we had our friends from all throughout our lives their neighbors you know. Peters you know hockey friends' parents and everybody there to celebrate with a similar family and that's just a tremendous joy dead people share when they're getting married. And we had never been able to share that way. And and that just continues I think that you every day if you acknowledge that I saved my wife Susan just the way everybody our lenders froze. Is not that -- making a statement. That's your life. But before. I would hold back and and how we don't."
[3:37]" What is your life like for the past five years. You're anxious and pick up that pace I knows that sometimes married couples experience select out. After six months a year have you felt like there is little Hussein. -- no I mean we've been to you won't."
[3:55]" We didn't think it actually is somewhat better."
[3:59]" This somewhat better because."
[4:02]" Well what and one thing that happened was a wedding is that I never realized it -- our friends were waiting for this to -- village -- we we didn't those statistics and 80% of people wearing a straight. And we 290 people we did a potluck and people who just absolutely. Look. In and I think it. It made us feel that would in again as yet to talk about a relationship even though he's -- known as thirty is."
[4:32]" We have never really talked about it we never talked about what it meant to raise Peter. -- icing milk."
[4:41]" Where Harvey milk was killed in 1978. And -- same time that we -- deciding that child. And we did. And I think that expresses the -- mindful that we and faith in the world to be kind to him. In this situation situation and -- parents. And all of our friends -- his younger years and going forward. Though they treat this -- they didn't think this is any big deal. And we never really expressed to them what a big deal was ho was hard for us."
[5:15]" How it where we had to hide really had -- and -- through the school system was this would. Did you go to the state for help if you needed it no because -- Cecil turn up and take your kid away. So there's a lot of little holding that quote coaches think you know because of her tryout somewhere what is it what does this coach think of too nonchalant. You know -- you know all these things objective in this world. And we were able to finally. Talked to our own friends about this -- we never had before really. And in this while we annoyances like that is a true that this happened and you and everybody became part of the same struggle -- OG straight people came. It became part of this struggle for marriage equality and understanding that the lives of every day gay people looks."
[6:04]" It's still an issue for other people states into English well obviously. What would you say if -- had an opportunity. To those people may be concerned that. Concern me about about legalizing but. Well you know it means. It takes nothing away from straight."
[6:24]" Marriages. Let's -- and that's a reality in the sooner people. Come to realize probably. They should think about their own marriages that thinks that somebody else getting married take something away from this. But. For gay people. It's -- struggle still to come out."
[6:43]" Everywhere even here in Massachusetts is a struggle for people to come out but that's the thing that will win the day."
[6:51]" That's something that we'll --"
[6:53]" This isn't it that it never occurred. Peter you guys had to decide. What coached until who shows up land and -- it's a very basic technical thing I don't think and Howell saw no."
[7:11]" And these are things that and eluding justice could take him anyway this is the eighties has admitted things you'd think an elected -- said he -- we could have got children. The dollar adopt your real moments ago we had an examination."
[7:26]" We have a friend. And OK so you know we've been together two years. We lived in Lynn. And we have wonderful neighbors and he had a great life or you know growing up -- and and then Cambridge. But these are the things that would. You would experience every day something something that you had to make a decision about."
[7:49]" How you were going to customers aren't like and I don't think straight I never had to deal would not it's okay yeah well infrastructure Sufi branch."
[7:59]" And at the same time I think that's."
[8:05]" That I have I -- I think we have faith that this will change gradually throughout the country because. It has made me when it when people do share their lives. And start to -- to their neighbors and legislators that is what really. Made the difference because the legislators for instance are thinking about just the conversation -- had how is that. How is life or use as a family how does this affect the security of your children what's that you know what. What is the obligation of the state to protect process of -- You know the constitution is here for us. And that's the way that should be."













