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[0:05] ..." to escape from. His captors in that small twenty -- life vocalist Somali pirates who have been holding him for a couple of days he's back aboard the lifeboat now. But it raises questions as to just how tense things may be aboard. That's small vessel and joining us this morning to talk about the dynamics and also where we go from here in what is an extraordinarily complicated and delicate situation. Former deputy director of the FBI and the head of the New York office of the FBI someone who. Investigated thoroughly terrorist attacks beginning back in the first attack on the world trade tower. In New York City Jim tells from. And -- the first of all the what is likely to be the reaction of these pirates to the"...
[1:49] ..." could be done the poll was very very quickly. So what the FBI hostage negotiation team that I believe is on the scene. You know what they do they're going to try to you know find those"...
[4:18] ..." Marines aboard. It wouldn't make sense once this is resolved for the United States to go ashore and to leave a mark -- do we hoop leaving ourselves open for. The sort of debacle that occurred and was so well documented in the in black hawk down in Mogadishu's. "...
[5:59] ..." pay a ransom in order to get back captain -- so the United States refuses itself. To get involved of that sort of activity as the FBI and the navy department. Try to negotiate not only"...
[0:00]" Well as you've been hearing on WBZ this morning there is word that captain Richard Phillips attempted to escape from. His captors in that small twenty -- life vocalist Somali pirates who have been holding him for a couple of days he's back aboard the lifeboat now. But it raises questions as to just how tense things may be aboard. That's small vessel and joining us this morning to talk about the dynamics and also where we go from here in what is an extraordinarily complicated and delicate situation. Former deputy director of the FBI and the head of the New York office of the FBI someone who. Investigated thoroughly terrorist attacks beginning back in the first attack on the world trade tower. In New York City Jim tells from. And -- the first of all the what is likely to be the reaction of these pirates to the fact that captain Phillips tried to get away and they got them back."
[0:51]" Well they don't -- reaction that is that. He's the only city act's passage card -- they have so. Obviously they want to keep them in the I don't think. They're going to be giving less or more hostile to him because he try to escape what a terrific person in this let me. He's really something we should hold the way he's acted in this but. I don't see that being a big change at all unfortunately. You know they're in this boat that's -- you know you can't release the -- The bad guys here in the good if that was the case if you could actually. Visually see them. You know we can do away with the situation room quirk but."
[1:37]" You're talking about with the with the snipers."
[1:40]" Without question it without question. -- though you could do you have a line of sight with them even if it's from. You know a thousand meters away this thing could be done the poll was very very quickly. So what the FBI hostage negotiation team that I believe is on the scene. You know what they do they're going to try to you know find those magic. Passage cards to. Get this brave great Americans. Released. The course after that happens we need to take a really strong hard look at. What would not only to protect pieces and shipping lanes. And particularly what would not -- an issue to protect American flag carrying missiles and it's ludicrous of this is gone on as long as it is."
[2:27]" Jim is a former marine. Wouldn't you agree that it would make sense that the navy department put on American flag vessels particularly those in the gulf of Aden. Those who like this Marist Alabama we're in the military. A security program and are subsidized by US taxpayers put a small group of Marines aboard. In order provides security something which the navy has done the navy department has done in the past. On some ships carrying some civilian ships carrying military cargo. In two of the Persian gulf just to be on the safe side and -- access to blues have all of these."
[3:05]" Ed c'mon that's common sense Finland -- but he common sense of course that should happen. I mean how many years. Probably ties as it happened. -- the first American like Jerry shipman at that's really relevant to the processes so few -- conflict there anxious to. A host of reasons not the least of which is taxes. But of course something like this should. You know and the fact these ships and not protect themselves with you know to a three people who are trained you know in in protecting the vessel. You know the notion that -- according you know footnote 25 -- you know piece of crap. Little boat you know filled with people that that it weapons can can approach something the size of this vessel. You know actually taken over as preposterous."
[3:54]" By Jim. A Somali leader who was not been identified as told the French. The press agency are -- press. That the pirates intend to band together and if there's any sort of of an attack made on these captors that. They'll strike back. The navy is moving one of its helicopter carriers into the region as well. That obviously has some Marines aboard. It wouldn't make sense once this is resolved for the United States to go ashore and to leave a mark -- do we hoop leaving ourselves open for. The sort of debacle that occurred and was so well documented in the in black hawk down in Mogadishu's. "
[4:36]" I think simpler that hasn't happened but obviously. It shouldn't happen without a good plan. Good exit strategy. But the of the notion that we're living these band of pirates which have been. You know over the course of history. Have been anti took the whole world not just in states. You know the notion that this is some sort of the Department of Justice criminal matters preposterous. You know that this seems to be dealt with -- you know. In this day and age you you know great satellite optics. The notion that we couldn't find out. Where they've hit new ships supposedly did say that would have been -- smile. You know where they're operating. How they operate. Of course we can do all of that and you know what's the political. You know. Lack of will you know the two we would deal with this. I think -- if nothing else the situation. Is signaled an end to this activity I would hope. With some rationalize a yes supplement that there could be done but it but it has to be well thought out and has been successful."
[5:48]" Finally Jim the the ship itself is owned by Danish company carrying US flag and he would not be. Unusual based on what some other -- have done to pay a ransom in order to get back captain -- so the United States refuses itself. To get involved of that sort of activity as the FBI and the navy department. Try to negotiate not only with the captives -- captors but also with. The the Danish shipping company on what the right thing to do is an as the days go on. Where's that where's the out for the assuming this is in -- and they're probably eight days of rations left on that lifeboat describe. How this thing is is likely to go on."
[6:31]" Well of course that I had to that I have no -- TO what what's going on but I suspect. You know communications somehow. Hopefully have been. Important place between -- bobbing little boat you know discovered from the -- with a roof. And and the Russian negotiators and they are trying to find. You know the keys to the release of this brave captain. And if if that means of paying a ransom you know so be it to get him back. But that should be the last ransom -- simply in my view. You know we don't want to sacrifice is great man for the lack of paying one now have commencement on on such a long time which in fact hasn't bowled in the via the activities of this lawless nations lawless bunch. Basically. You know people that that should be done away with. So you know they're going to find a way to get disparate out of there and then what has happened after that is some the decisive action has to take place to put an end to -- creations."
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