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[0:14] ..." investigative series done house speaker seldom easy this is of course a Macy's -- he's continually denied any. Problems with his ethics although. The -- of his associates have gotten in trouble with the law almost notably his former accountant. And longtime friend and fund raiser Richard Vitale who is facing federal charges. Joining us this morning one of the people who's been working hard in the series for the globe globe reporter Steve correction. It's it's a complicated tale to sort of boil it down. The Macy's friends or alleged by federal investigators. In your reporting seems to substantiate this -- using the -- friendship with him to try"...
[1:16] ..." fact that they appeared that the two questions. Why why didn't the Macy's -- know about this while I was made aware of this is easy he repeatedly said he did not know that they"...
[1:33] ..." The I mention mr. Vitale name and Richard Vitale who was seldom Macy's a -- and one would presume in that capacity. Intimately familiar with the Macy's financial situation mean than usual third mortgage of a quarter million dollars and the Macy's. Home in the North End and that on the same day. That a piece of legislation favorable to what mr. Vitale is interest. No -- outside of his accountancy revealed -- he did denies being. A lobbyist in fact are registered as one. He settles a 7500 dollar. Legal -- apparently. For the -- real estate transaction. Of agreed to Macy's in -- selling a home in Needham to sell the Macy and his wife."...
[2:57] ..." It would which it was to weigh in interest because no one is charged anything. Against the speaker yet anyway. Vitale as we mentioned has been has been charged but."...
[4:29] ..." with. Some of these salespeople for -- with the speaker to Macy into Macy's office."...
[5:45] ..." that contract and Richard McDonough. Who's long been lobbyist open on on Beacon Hill and very very close from perhaps the best friends. Of the speaker on the hill. What was hired by cardinals. To lobby"...
[6:35] ..." Do you have any idea. This Steve why speak in the Macy decided that now is the time to go 22 because it lets face it was reelected as speaker. Earlier this month --"...
[0:00]" The Boston Globe these days seems to be leading the way for the Massachusetts attorney general's office one more report in the globe after another. Sparks the state government into action perhaps none so dramatically. As the investigative series done house speaker seldom easy this is of course a Macy's -- he's continually denied any. Problems with his ethics although. The -- of his associates have gotten in trouble with the law almost notably his former accountant. And longtime friend and fund raiser Richard Vitale who is facing federal charges. Joining us this morning one of the people who's been working hard in the series for the globe globe reporter Steve correction. It's it's a complicated tale to sort of boil it down. The Macy's friends or alleged by federal investigators. In your reporting seems to substantiate this -- using the -- friendship with him to try to influence state policy."
[0:55]" Well in two very dramatic cases and put the ticket brokers legislation. And the contract it was signed by Governor Patrick administration. In August of 7. Several. All friends and associates. The speakers they get to Mazie. Suddenly appeared. It's not the fact that they appeared that the two questions. Why why didn't the Macy's -- know about this while I was made aware of this is easy he repeatedly said he did not know that they were on the table you're getting lobbying fees. And -- the amount of money that they were making."
[1:33]" The I mention mr. Vitale name and Richard Vitale who was seldom Macy's a -- and one would presume in that capacity. Intimately familiar with the Macy's financial situation mean than usual third mortgage of a quarter million dollars and the Macy's. Home in the North End and that on the same day. That a piece of legislation favorable to what mr. Vitale is interest. No -- outside of his accountancy revealed -- he did denies being. A lobbyist in fact are registered as one. He settles a 7500 dollar. Legal -- apparently. For the -- real estate transaction. Of agreed to Macy's in -- selling a home in Needham to sell the Macy and his wife."
[2:21]" It's strange credulity when we had our interview was speaker to meiji and Andy Estes and myself and it was believed supporter and on this series all the way. We had our interview with him last spring. And we were focused on fatalities lobbying. Efforts. That the speaker denied vehemently specifically categorically. That he it was aware. Of the -- efforts. In anyway audit or knew the fatality. -- the tally was was involved."
[2:57]" It would which it was to weigh in interest because no one is charged anything. Against the speaker yet anyway. Vitale as we mentioned has been has been charged but. The speaker did settle that that -- usual third mortgage. And the rules is saved that you can't make. Payments to an immediate. Family of of a legislator and you can argue that in laws are -- immediate family."
[3:22]" It's it's it's hard to understand why Vitale wouldn't of told the speaker. As the signing the papers was -- because you know personal financial issues were and which. Paying off debts of his friend of his in laws are signing the mortgage -- them. On the same day that he wouldn't of sent the speaker. The speaker you as you know T may realize I've begun. A lobbying. On behalf of the ticket brokers or lobbying on behalf of the software Cobb company. But that was the account the specific as to count that -- speakership. In surprisingly enough the speakership he wasn't. He had not in quiet once revealed to them. He had been quiet to Vitale about this in so like it I just think it gets to decide that the openness of these the openness of the speaking in dealing with these organizations."
[4:13]" Did it did not mr. Vitale actually have a meeting with some of the Cognos software people. -- the state contract that was signed by the Patrick administration although the parent of cardinals IBM has now repaid. The money -- didn't have a meeting with. Some of these salespeople for -- with the speaker to Macy into Macy's office."
[4:35]" I know we don't know that not not a direct contact don't know the speaker is -- stated this specifically that in the 67. Period that they caught those Contra -- the -- company was really working hard to get this. Software contract bought by the state security had no specific rules in urging any of the state. Agencies. Administrations to -- cardinals he was urging. The agency's in the administration to buy the hype are. Business intelligence software as -- cardinal softened but never would name as far as we know the name condoms some."
[5:15]" understand okay. So -- it was the at least in that regard Vitale whether it was ticket brokers or where the software was was arm's length."
[5:23]" It's in this session ended in. The fact that caught that this should in the fact that the Vitale. -- hired by cardinals to lobby on its behalf the fact that attorney Stephen to tie GO who has long been a lot of associates. Speaker to -- which hired by Clark knows. As little two to help in the lobbying of that contract and Richard McDonough. Who's long been lobbyist open on on Beacon Hill and very very close from perhaps the best friends. Of the speaker on the hill. What was hired by cardinals. To lobby on its behalf. And to get enough and kicked it in together they made one point eight million dollars in lobbying fees that would never. That would never. Disclosed it to the state under the State's disclosures. Requirements. I just raised that that that bet that stories. That we that we vote. Several months -- I think that was what made him the biggest stories that. That opened this up and began. The the need investigative work state settled."
[6:35]" Do you have any idea. This Steve why speak in the Macy decided that now is the time to go 22 because it lets face it was reelected as speaker. Earlier this month -- is it are you guys about to bring something else."
[6:50]" expected they -- working on but but did she questioned specifically know I do not have any. Direct information as to why this point on this story just because decided to."
[7:02]" Is it fair to say that the globe is not finished with it's its work on the."
[7:06]" I don't think it's stated -- the globe they think who has these these these this happens. All the time with investigative stories a newspaper who picked it up. -- cut on the -- story to three and then the official agencies will get a bullet. And that we know what's happened here classically happened in the past but that's what's happened here. The inspector general's office the Beauchamp. Very in -- investigation in this area. Speaker secretary of state -- office on lobbying fees and the attorney general's office. On Vitale who. Work on behalf of ticket brokers in the the FBI and US attorney's office regarding. The cardinals contract so. I -- I think they're the ones that will be breaking news on display through which to lot of weapons."
[7:54]" Steve correction of the Boston Globe."
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