George Carlin With David Brudnoy

[0:00]" Photos so lunch Jack. And -- do. Or -- the word thanks and take your lips and the David Bragg -- show. That's -- never heard of -- WBZ news radio 1030. Speaking of speaking of -- and dizzying."

[0:30]" Until much we have George Carlin -- tonight. Maybe not quite -- but pretty darn good -- who's here with -- for previous -- a couple of years ago we -- great time with them and I hope you'll join tonight and get in and say something to -- something of George Carlin who -- again in his -- professional career. At age nineteen in a radio station in Shreveport Louisiana -- through radio for you is like coming home again a son."

[0:58]" It is although I did I saw I was as a way station at that time and any signs the United snow -- allies was when I was eleven I had my plan radio first -- We may be acting but I'm glad that Tutsis and grimaced they respect even even eleven and he when my fifth grade autobiography as -- war. The last -- what you like to be and I had actually comedian impersonator announcers disc jockey."

[1:26]" You -- you did the acting for awhile but -- is -- really -- captivated you and and made an audience that is there's not just a fanned on -- there's almost a cult dominance of George Carlin has been the standout. But has provided over the years for you a forum for commenting on the things that really your contention in there's a lot of stuff that irritates there. What what are your current gripes what when it was getting under the George Carlin scam."

[1:55]" there probably more of them than I cannot reference quickly but I'm always. Put off to bid by the way the language. The -- of America's culture is and twisted abused and so forth. As an example this -- issues which room. -- who you know we used to have problems known as problems dealing with a heavy issues he has issues. You know has a drug problem they have a chemical dependency issue. I fact that dog and incidents San Francisco with the the dog did and I gives attacked and killed the woman agreed about a week later they were interviewing someone -- a gentleman from that building these are well it was well known in the neighborhood at that dog had issues. With other male dogs so it's too and those the sorts of things very -- they're in their endless wealth I'll think of some more as -- garner now."

[3:08]" I have -- credit officially credited for nine years in the in the New Yorkers system. I attended the the first semester of tenth grade but that didn't count I I was restless and done I have only goal in the plan as I implied about when I was eleven years all at a plan from my my life tonight. I knew what I. I felt I knew what I could be and who wanted to be in the in the entertainment business I'm going to be like any case that was sort of way simplified my oversimplified. Goal to be like -- in the movies be funny in the movies -- and and I was good -- you know scholastic where I did well but. I didn't take well to him. Regulation authority and no one of -- in the heart you know I had including being kicked out and I'm proud of this litany I'm I was kicked out of the altar boys choir boys the boy scout summer camp a couple of schools and the Air Force. So that's a nice list and I and I left each of them you know and on good terms but on my own you editions. I had another -- may -- it."

[4:13]" Others weren't so there is is the -- situation because a weather situation we have a a mid east peace process situation relief fear and are you point this out of both in your previous welcoming a new one napalm. And silly putty in mentioned and ears and your stand up for years as people are loath. To use the word itself they love euphemism they love to to sort of ma. Mushy eyes and got sort of soften bushy delaying live by taking away the hard. Objective words they don't write a good Anglo Saxon words -- like the sort of romantic words -- Roman Senator Edwards -- soften things."

[4:49]" They saw and experienced yes I think there's there's. There's a sort of a fear the real. I don't give you some examples of some further examples in the -- senate on unknown but not all of them but go largely around hotels -- spent a lot of time but -- For instance. Do not disturb it was very direct very simple declarative -- and comparisons actually do not disturb that's it folks. Now we have privacy please this is begging sort of -- to be left alone suits are not intrude on me the no smoking was the same way thank you for not smoking is if you should be grateful -- so was not giving you besides Jean Toomer. The room service became in room and dining. I was a hotel recently were they told the restaurant was being renovated and ice crisis was not open and the conversation is just beginning this in restaurants settlement is -- no we're having restaurant enhancement. And this is done routinely and I just think it's part they're not quite euphemisms as sources tell you for mystic it's it's a retreat from the real."

[5:56]" When when you have gone through your various phases LC standup in. We say interpreter of our culture OK I'm looking that way because I think the way you do is is context July as our world. In your particular framework and there is there -- Carolinians. Framework out there and a fun as watching you you -- gave me. Easier CDs and they have been lent out to friends and never returned by -- listens of the many many times I know. What your framework is things fit into a pattern a pattern of say it's straight. Don't -- of five. Don't believe that authorities always right don't just say things because you heard others say -- them but figure on do you really mean at. Bob some people like that you've had periods in which people did like then I'll have the audience has changed. More than George Carlin has changed over the years of the audiences become in recent years so apprehensive. Now of reality so fearful of them might say a word that. Is politically cockamamie you know. As cycle usually horiuchi I know I I I political -- I just want to use the word itself as CNN's of the rap but I won't use that. It's it's to my mind just. Horror that this yeah he's Johnson on. Our audiences of free W you listen to. To Leno and Letterman and while the kid above politics a lot of and about stars they never really touched the fundamentals of what ails us."

[7:29]" Superficial and its -- It now that's not. Some have to mean that I'm being critical it is a critical statement on this -- shall -- about topical humor were just really celebrity jokes. My own. Sense of all of audiences in general first -- there's there's you know I have a confusion about it because I get a devoted audience I -- for the most part when I go to people's -- want to go to symphony -- or somewhere in a person's -- on -- for months there and there's a kind of focus -- of hardcore fans who come to see you knowing what you do living in your context already and welcoming what -- in my case. In other situations such as working in Las Vegas which takes some of the pressure off those other cities for Meehan allows me to sit for two weeks -- right in those places -- get more of a very random audience less hard -- there's less committed people and that's or I noticed. The the tightening of the screen actors in the audience's -- approach certain topics it has only has to be a topic children for as what people -- well what's what's still -- children. The attack that I made it so to speak uses throughout that really it's it's just triggered criticism of this cult of parenthood that we've developed in this country does this again this exaggerated called because we everything in this country gets over -- and that's one of the things that I like to look and so the audiences have changed in that. And again my in my view is skewed because they're my audience. But generally the culture has changed in the last thirty years certainly and therefore. All forms of writing and I just one on just one form of writing I've changed."

[9:16]" What about genetics you were you receive none of the on -- programs some are very on television while ago saying the -- a lot of your success to having good genes and just think most people if they're honest recognized. We -- grateful for good parents yeah great for good for good health and we have what and where were glad that we don't have. Crummy parents who gave us bad bad bad things -- now the nurture is an important human nature is the dirty little secret for a lot of people do fear. Of acknowledging that in fact you can be blessed by your genes are person violent. Tell us a little bit lower your good genes somehow -- onto your current life."

[9:57]" I always I always say for all we know we may be grateful to -- of these grandma's milkman you really don't know we're crossing that line. And I think more things -- then we give credit to although as you say nurturing environment have a lot to do things they reinforce things but I think such things -- bravery and hard work are largely genetic -- I think and they -- people I -- well I'm very lucky -- these -- good genetic markers for language and for for being -- in this self expression and an -- that you -- to -- all we -- that's genetic -- to -- the need to have to work and produce things as opposed. Being somewhat lazy so. In my own case my grandfather Dennis period who came over to America from Ireland when he was dissatisfied with his stepmother -- didn't like the stepmother something I don't know the details of the of the family but and that case but. It is a father remarried you do like this demonstrate just left that's I'm like that I felt like something you can't change and I -- that it's a -- the loans as well because ceiling on the one who used to be -- so he came over here and he was self educated self taught. And and he rode out the work she shakes current should at least a large portion of them in his adult years he rode out longhand the works of Shakespeare because enjoyed gave him two to write down what he was reading yes somebody else's -- CST 2000 justice in favor the words letter by letter longhand with a -- And spoke as -- always at the dinner table I'm told by my mother of language. Issues topics about language and she. It was very. Very aware of how the Irish come something a vote of of of a disproportionate feel for language and expression of grief and she. Genetic -- yes indeed all irishman talk are going to write and how some of -- Ireland and Amarillo where outnumbered and and some of the -- to put on paper and it becomes -- something -- I -- but she -- did the issue the issue -- Mary -- thank -- those -- that wasn't an issue was an -- and -- often referred to -- and for instance. I brought her two into the it was a day when when I asked what the -- Peru's meant. And she's well let's get a dictionary she always would would do that to me he knew when she knew she usually new. I was so I got to the -- out for Peru's and I looked -- initiation usually sends images and they didn't show can that's Peru's. So the next day want to broader newspaper which has sometimes did. The brunt of the world's ornaments on a listen here mom you might want to peruse this. And she said well I'll give the cursory glance and there are was right back to the dictionary the machine she would Colleen this should be reading -- adjacent -- the -- of these -- just look at these -- just -- to look at. How he says a look at the author says you know so she encouraged that in me -- and that's the nurture part. But six and calls."

[13:06]" Number 2541030. David good evening on WBZ would charge Carl -- from napalm and silly party."

[13:12]" Good evening -- David George -- in its. Paired with one of I think his point that the protocols -- and you know I can do -- myself America where but we're done underwear -- announces that have to do is -- your show you're. The point where they're talking about you know first provisional whenever a horsepower -- LeRoy dollars. And they went before the bell problem authority over Troy -- appears ago thank you and you know your cities and -- two you know her moment structure. Difficult time for me in my life I was going to about shelves and there was my. You know own turmoil little problems like -- cracked up -- put one in the car."

[13:59]" Let's fast thank you for from human contact their input."

[14:02]" When it if I don't like the commercials you've done your finger off on commercials the yes -- force predator -- the -- touched on them. There you are doing them in the early February because I don't know if there's a and there was there was a court thinker have your paper have when -- record albums -- seven days. You know and don't -- prior before anyone else -- do you know it was a risky step -- follows this -- thrown into the death can you got home. Yeah maybe you're counting on that. They landed on the -- went on and they --"

[14:32]" It's a view that he's allowed three David thank you very all right Bruce good evening on WBZ. With George."

[14:38]" I Davis thank -- thank my colleagues welcome sir thank you should check tristate who grew up with yes. As two -- thank you I -- Every single. Record you have a brutal practice if you aren't it's not -- wreckage yes they are reconciling that occurred right back. And I don't know -- lotteries and judge one of my favorite of all time to pick -- the nothing Indians urgent."

[15:06]" Scalia that was the peace and got me going in television that was there was the idea was it was of fish out of water routine -- said the Indians being such good fighters must have been more organized and they seen in the movies in -- must have had sergeants. And I did it kind of the typical New York Brooklyn kind of working class guy as an Indian and they've got me on Merv Griffin coming on my Douglas and ended launched. So so to speak in that career -- in this in the mid sixty language like that."

[15:36]" attracting record yeah I don't want to keep -- please. The one of words against me -- by the candidate closure business we don't there aren't anymore its closure and us. An element is traumatic you know John harper blankets it's a traumatic experiences and -- living -- really about the one quick question -- surely in -- of any book I didn't hear."

[15:59]" I'm doing and wordsworth tomorrow I think that's in Cambridge dissidents -- one -- during and this is early evening is probably 7:30 or 8 o'clock Sunday night air opposite my program and well look this is not nice of you -- allowed he would headsets and want I would --"

[16:15]" Commitment drag it Camelot and the book signing the Bender -- day when everybody is that work so look for are now dealing with the."

[16:22]" I think though besides traumatic surreal currently Medicare describes in his -- news new news looks real. It may thanks for your comments cereals had malaria -- him."

[16:34]" And got question I don't -- mideast envoy give us a threat than it was -- grown up that there are you. And that we look forward David thank you very much effort."

[17:57]" I do I've read mostly nonfiction no I'm unlawfully unread -- in the classic sort of fiction in general my -- answer and explanation that is to say I'm not interest isn't and other people's own imagine things. But of course is it's a function of time I love my writing I'd rather write -- read and -- I think the thing is I have a return of the memory and I don't and I I -- to absorb things of this such as language -- kind of without trying very hard so. I think I've I've I was just taken on a lot of things that -- without really having to do a lot of Reading -- just so I I gravitate toward anything about language or words are communicating."

[18:38]" What an incredible gift that and I want to thank you but perhaps add onto -- seed Tommy lastly. What -- book what is the best spoken your opinion you have arrests."

[18:48]" Well I'm going to two give you and author. Who has done some fiction -- nonfiction I really admire and that's Gore Vidal be just because of his because of them. Loses the positions as a social critic -- but and when I said woefully unread. You may even underline and -- bold -- I don't even have a favorite book to tell you although -- I loved reading about physics and both of the very macro -- the very among -- I love Astro physics of quantum physics and they remove me from reality as it were and I just love that. But very enlightening thanks again to I didn't."

[19:29]" Thank you -- write -- Physics majority love to -- element in this is not I've read your books now both of them. And the physics has not come up to -- elect a new treat us from you. A breaking the physics bury some refining the unified field theory explaining the nature of reality I'm here."

[19:46]" Next I'm going to be I'm going to get gravity into the -- get -- so that rule and this is how they interact I had spent about what happened. Gerri good evening Gerri on WB say about it."

[19:56]" Always a pleasure mr. -- and on at least making it easier you very good you know having grown up but at an Irish family. The houses often filled with laughter and is and I hate seeing growing up. Noticed that intends to being a group of people are different groups of people that. What are they come to finding things funny easier or more natural than others. And then later in life I noticed that jurors -- different different feel like men aren't funny. And -- women find find no doubt being somebody who has been able to craft. Just a normal -- into making -- you know that -- for fighting thought wondering I'd like to hear your thoughts about. Good to come out how people come to find some but financial. Have you dissected the idea or children and how it is different straight for the Irish sense say for -- polish. And then how it's different for men and women."

[20:51]" Well of course one thing really mystery is my experience with -- other groups. And the Irish aspect is the one obvious and the most familiar with and and my neighborhood and the federalism whenever -- weren't so first generation that there was a strong Irish feel I would notice in the times of course. In my own home there -- there wasn't that although my mother was proud of being Irish but at the what I would say is I think I'm. I don't think and in. That experience. Generational experience by I think something's last experiences the Jews have a have a very powerful in group humor that has helped them survive he said. And or at least deal with some of the heart isn't in their own history I think the Irish I think it's very similar for the Irish in that -- the experienced with Britain for so long -- Was such a tortured one. I think they have I think there's -- I think there's a wonderfully therapeutic thing I'm obviously and so we're just thinking this has been shown to therapeutic value to laughter it's it's it's a pressure -- it's a safety -- it it produces endorphins which which obviously by definition kill -- so so there's more to that than just the simple fact. And I think kids so I think people who are humorless. Are essentially. Not well balanced Nixon was an example -- I mean just to ridicule someone who comes in for a lot of abuse but Nixon was famously -- it was -- forced an -- man who -- very troubled so that there's some correlation that's that is not taken seriously enough obviously to be studied well by science I think you're sort of -- who feel left out of the scientific circles if you take into serious and you want to study but there's something there and I wish -- could help to find -- better for you."

[22:48]" Well I mean I think that's. That's sixteen valve and that's a cushion against the bad times is there's probably rings very true. But I'm I'm really curious thing you know having to not get on an equal footing maybe some special -- I find it interestingly. Confusing how women and men could have told friends -- humor."

[24:16]" I don't think going to appear to have been a long time is easy I started how wall I was first on out of what you want to play ball fourteen year old. OK I got hold of an album called aim at him. Yes and I don't really hilarious at the time it was but he always has -- for the material that was on it. And -- like my family. Didn't agree with him you know because she's young present she's just -- I think a lot of in light about a minute and it was it is. Please help me get through a lot of things as far as you know it is looking to become a better thank you. And realizes what do you the other material that I just kept you know and we can't they get. I -- for the new material that you have to -- you could achieve unity you're continuing to."

[25:17]" The first book sold about 750 miles an hour expression which offers drool about let's -- they make a big hit. Yeah that's that's that's that's up there -- no -- category that's really."

[25:29]" Thank you for what you said about them your own room -- my humor being of assistance of -- kind of because I hear that from time -- time I never I never count on that you know -- and I'm always surprised -- and because people will say is rather serious sounding things about the effect of some things that I am -- obviously -- are comedians humorists have done before amendment indirectly so -- thank you prefer that."

[25:58]" Well a lot of material as the good a lot of everyday life she -- and that's something for the attack could lead to a and what is that in life to me and helped me get through a lot of things because. Coming you look at the humorous side of things and -- is really good material and you know it's it's did you know -- the spotlight."

[26:17]" Do you want to continue to do that and done I urge you to read the book I thank you for the cause a lot of times the cost had a good evening here on WBZ -- attempt."

[26:26]" I I you know -- good -- says Harry and David in any technical lead. George Carlin was it was -- It's something you could -- two smothers Brothers was pretty -- risque things yeah roomful flick. Mom all I enjoyed your your albums always -- them from Pleasanton thank you. When -- enjoyed reading about physics I completely understand it for a writer to take the time to read as a big luxury. Yes what I've always enjoyed it called the making of the atomic bomb Richard Rhodes."

[26:57]" Yeah I learned that Poland should that we --"

[27:01]" Maybe he does a very nice trouble going through the history of the people in. The science behind it is so it for a that I can give you that recommendation lover upended -- felt like they gave you some good -- for all the good times."

[27:14]" You will emphasize to you thanks very much shore thanks so much everybody would become Steve good evening your -- time. -- going on KF."

[27:24]" All right I Georgia can barely hear from a car phone idea here I had the -- record you're on. Thank you I I just want to say I was when I was ten or eleven years old I wore out my copy my cassette copy of class clown and respect that is your. And I expect that I just quickly I'll take grants dropped the phone I want to know. Or your early influences so war I know you're very fond of Lenny Bruce -- got -- before he passed away and -- should -- reminds you most of view I hear a lot of viewing Jerry signed ability -- of the same. Kind of -- a look at the world your little edges and he has been but it -- today. Remind you most review and all -- can thank you probably guess your under a lot don't think I guess my answer off the air."

[30:08]" good answer is an excellent that's a terrific dancer at a record revenues that are getting off Mike if you're on WBZ -- George Carlin good evening my."

[30:16]" I idealistic and I loved brain droppings might think you. I'm I'm -- dangerously traffic like the last guy who got a cell phones. And before I had my cellphone I hated people who didn't act I want to note is no way I could stop becoming that would -- hate. And he got."

[30:35]" Well just all trained sufficiently so that it becomes your style and then this individual and then you're not like all of them."

[30:41]" About a Fisher price found that I get one of those -- outfitted with a cellular you'd probably be talking tomorrow learns she's people who -- work one last question you for or against the giants -- killing machine that they're proposing. Why do and then not another passenger making the giant -- McCain I don't know it look good on paper first period and it's just it's."

[31:04]" You know I think you might help you might help us a little bit Mike by explaining. What the giant puppy killing machine this is is George Carlin and I don't want to walk into. Murky territory I'm jell O's series the GO guess we will tell us what it is."

[31:19]" I as stated it seems police uncovered that the government wants to do because they at a resin and meals are -- the -- enough to just know he's now dead."

[31:28]" You know the gunman had no honey no no no."

[31:30]" Obama has George -- to make fun of the insurgent how people -- as if -- pretty stupid not affected the government. And I like to look at the giant -- killing machine concept -- anything's I sound like those pentagon ultra toilet on the."

[31:43]" Aren't you must remember this though the only reason the government is he as you say stupid is because it's as a product of the people. The people are responsible for everything is called leave the people so -- in Atlanta."

[31:54]" I'm not Arabs involved. More and I am I'm against the dive Buffy killing -- I got a lot of the delegates as platonic."

[32:01]" Well I think we've got a clear definition uses terms genuinely happy about it absolutely I think -- apartheid -- I thought it looked good on paper stuff it and I don't."

[32:11]" Like you're OK good so Camilla Cubans are you guys got timing is everything once you mandate of the you know the punch line that you kind of stop you get the last ammonia move on and know your moving on to by Kenneth."

[32:22]" Good evening on WBZ say hello -- you are only just like hello that's funny moments that are obviously good yeah I'd I'd try that is Kenny had a guy but I don't think. They are doing good drug for children couldn't speak here thank you."

[32:36]" I I think there's I consider myself to be a car limits you know people. Identify themselves with certain groups especially like political term goals and and in the community and everything is there really aren't I I. I think that you're not only the greatest comedian of all time I think give a damn finest human oh -- time."

[32:57]" Oh yeah well that's -- little hyperbolic but I'll accepted because it sounds real good I'm very healthy incense. And we're getting our knees now everybody yes yeah I think everybody -- because America."

[33:11]" Cellular side I got brain droppings in in I mean you briefly any kind of formula I was concerned about how you're humor would. Translate into the written formula -- it's -- It's great to see you and stand up and -- because you're so animated your your your physical comedian also. So I was curious to see and I just. I I got on the Red Line to go home and I turned to Jack get on the book upside down and I read it might tackle -- will allow. -- Norman -- and the people on the -- with me. I'm sure I thought I was there you know lunatic all the better for you do you know there was my George Carlin book upside down. -- you concerned about that this that it wouldn't -- that will for the --"

[33:56]" I didn't have them time to think about by the time my I've realized that I had some facility to be to do that that I can write for the page as well. The question was answered soil and errands oppose it."

[34:08]" Yeah I wonder some would have to be of -- yours to to get it early bird."

[34:14]" I don't know why I try to beyond the thing about writing for the page that I found it is of course is -- realized people can go back and read it over immediately or later. They carried -- five straight times. And so you have an obligation through to make the sentence is clear take out the things that dinner in the way. And and yet dressing up so that it's -- she wanted to do so I took a lot of care within and it is a whole different craft and obviously it is and I'm very happy that I have some some ability."

[34:42]" You get a really good job thank you have to find out I'm looking forward to the new one thank you very much thank electorate Kenny thank you very much for calling us -- we appreciate the call a number 25 or 1030 -- as a -- maglev as a mention -- China's tell me."

[34:56]" I -- I thought it was kind of woman died on. I thought so it's -- ask -- I just going to let you know had been enjoying your work for years decades even serious and been here shows have always left laughing and you know it I tried sometimes to memorize what you're saying he's my memories -- goody jars and that you want to come back to meet the very best times -- I'm curious as to who make you laugh. -- days."