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Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani

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Play from 4:50[4:50] ..." great diversity is even better mean and I think the people of New York -- become nice nice of people and spiritually we've grown from."...

Play from 6:56[6:56] ..." whether the respondent most of the times we did sometimes we did. President Bush on September 20 2001 said we're going to go on offense against terrorists we're going to do the best we can to"...

Play from 8:30[8:30] ..." the line but many of us would believe that you're going to run for president and many people have this discussion that that -- set you up to be a person that the rest of the country"...

Play from 11:30[11:30] ..." what where. Learning gory way you know our weather -- government or health experts are his that is that is something that we ought to worry about ourselves -- we'll have to worry about it which"...

Play from 0:00[0:00]" 911 was contradictory to you back then and I assume it's still contradictory to -- five years later of the worst days in this city's history yet -- some best of our world -- that still you actually -- September 11 is the worst a history of the city in the greatest mysteries and the worst -- in my life in the greatest. The worst -- For the city Anthony for everyone else because of the tremendous laws that we still can't count plays itself everyday in the children growing up without fathers mothers -- Spouses or missing in the parent with -- reasoning and Andy concern we have to have about terrorism. What that means for us to sacrifice two after it made me going -- and against terrorism which we have to do say so fact it was the worst it touches that -- came out of it after. The illnesses to people almost part of it is the tremendous heroism and bravery. And for all the reconstruction analysis -- emerges clearly from all eyes if it weren't for the bravery. So many people people would be yet we don't know exactly numbers first estimate given with 12000 people more die. -- terrible number. Terribly for each individual terrible -- but considerably less -- would have. And firefighters police officers the rescue workers and individuals civilians who -- reason we -- and he. I meet people -- the country come to me today I was in building one building to. I was walking down and watch an -- five walking up and problems and it gave me the confidence to keep going to remain calm. I know they saved so many people and that so that and then and the way in which the city I asked the city that night and we have to emerge from the stronger. And affected -- emerge from I think even stronger than anticipated and other things it makes it grew out of greatness came as well how do you see this city today."

Play from 2:24[2:24]" see how far we've come where we are in some cases -- lack of progress if you want to talk about physically downtown remember. The time we talked at the year anniversaries that I would I would like to see is soaring memorial down there and that would be the catalyst for everything else and I still. Would suspect the feel the same way and that hasn't avenue --"

Play from 2:48[2:48]" I feel the same way about what I'd like you see there I'd like to see it devoted mostly to a memorial a grand one beautiful 11 that recapture -- noxious -- that day but the whole context historically what happen like. The way we treat Normandy -- Gettysburg or because I also believe that that would be the core of the economic development bringing millions of people there to see to see but I can't tell you that -- I'm surprised I I I I AM. Focusing -- chapel right before I left office basically parting speech trying to put some of the events in contact one of -- such writers let's explain my ideas. For what should happen there and my -- very much the same then as they are now should be focused on memorial -- office space should not predominate the consideration the memorial and the significance of the effect office space can be built anywhere that event only happens in one place it is you know it is an event that. Whether we like it -- not shaping our future. About what happens in the world and it needs it needs to be historically. Recognized in the right way my concern is how people -- useful would guess not if we get -- go to for his five years a tenure as what you want to use think about this if we if we sort of just -- commercial thing. I think they're going to think that that which is to kind of agreed each correction. And I think if we do something grand and beautiful and Soviet -- for the agents are going to see this as a generation really understood the significance of what happened so that's that's the way that's the way a look at. But other than that. I think city is. Considerably stronger than it was on September 11 I think it economically stronger -- grown it's reputation is greater than it's ever been its ability to absorb people and people was you know great diversity is even better mean and I think the people of New York -- become nice nice of people and spiritually we've grown from."

Play from 4:58[4:58]" You worry also early on was that we make sure that we use this anniversary you. Insist that we not become complacent and how we we view the world around us it was a very difficult lesson for us to learn five years ago and I wonder how you think we are now as a as a people on that subject."

Play from 5:17[5:17]" It's painful thing to remember September 11 it -- it painful and I remembered every day every day it's painful to remember right when I go down to lower Manhattan it's always a reminder and sometimes. Sometimes I don't look forward to going down this I know I'm going to live through. Some difficult experience that I had that day estimate happened afterwards remember father judge -- can't see hear or read down here. People that I just -- now you know that you get to know in these various groups that you work with. But the fact -- you have to you have to confront it I think we went through a period of time for a while we're where we we were putting too much on the back burner. And the reason we do is not it is certainly out of respect for the people will be lost and the tremendous bravery people who save other people but also because it is part of our present. And in this terrorist threat is still there it is very real. We are just as much a target of it now as we were four years ago five years ago affected it hasn't happened we should thank god for and we should thank our government for and I know we we like to attack our government all the time but the fact is if you ask me on September 11 would we be attacked again in the next five years I'd say absolutely and probably a number of times we haven't then I think that's a combination of the actions that we've taken by the by the Bush administration and the government arresting people seizing money. And most importantly going on offense against terrorists in the past we have been on defects we waited for terrorist act and we decide whether the respondent most of the times we did sometimes we did. President Bush on September 20 2001 said we're going to go on offense against terrorists we're going to do the best we can to find them before they find us and stop them from hurting us again. And he's remained true to that and whether all the things have worked or not that's a question for others to judge its history to judge the main core that commitment has remained constant has to stay there. And you've got to you have to really September 11 to remember just why we have to be an offense against terrorism we have to be pro active. I believe we're going to be attacked again I don't think that's going to prevent us from being attacked again but I think -- minimize the number of times they can attack I was you know last year as in London on July sifted. And I was a half block away from the first bomb went -- the Liverpool station and I know how good the intelligence services are in the UK and they couldn't predict that bombing. We've got a much bigger problem to deal with I think we're doing a real good job -- keeping the country safe in terms of having prevented an attack over the last five is that but you know -- we need to be -- 100% of the time they -- only --"

Play from 8:11[8:11]" You everywhere you go you walking into audiences introduces the title of America's mayor I know that you feel something. In your art when you when you hear that I've had this conversation with you how has that day set you up for what you may want to do down -- your future is. You know to be told down the line but many of us would believe that you're going to run for president and many people have this discussion that that -- set you up to be a person that the rest of the country needs."

Play from 8:41[8:41]" Well I you know I I don't know right now that so that I can really assessed correctly I think that somebody gets evaluated in spite of their entire. An entire career you know what all the things all the things they've done not done and then when you deal with a catastrophic event that sort of. -- sort of used to experiences that you have to deal with the than people have to evaluated but right now I think -- country in September 11 and the significance of that rather than. You know rather than it and have to politics and and it as this fist. Anniversary arrives what are the moments that. We'll go through your mind same. Moments ago you -- as you suggested everyday you know sometimes it's the same ones are some that are consistent and some new ones that you just remember I mean always think of -- father judge and seeing him the last time and being told that he died -- First time seeing them and man jumped from the 101 102 floor of my conversation peak -- really you know 20 minutes before he died. And the calm and efficient and effective way in which he was running the operation. Or I think about -- patent and Terry Haddon or think about the construction workers who showed up. And that afternoon. It was like the as like the reinforcements coming. To the -- with all of a sudden we felt this was -- and so difficult and what are you going to do an agony and these big strong guys more than you can even use show up and they they're just going to help. And it and then seeing the firefighters put the flag. On top of the terrible pilot dangerous areas they were putting up the American way of looking just like you which you all those things come back sometimes they're very painful memories sometimes they're very. Glorious memories you know tremendous results so. I think about a all the time I think about it every day -- and -- it would just be September 11 you start trying to put in some kind of context I think it actually helps to do my advice. Whenever people ask me for an sometimes you get engaged of these groups of people trying to help to talk about it -- painful experiences he has difficult experiences I think it's much better. To talk about it. And get some of them get some of them almost irrational it took to get out."

Play from 11:19[11:19]" my last question is it's as simple one that's about the health impact -- we read a story every day every other day about our concerns about the people who worked down there the recovery -- satisfied with what you see in terms of what where. Learning gory way you know our weather -- government or health experts are his that is that is something that we ought to worry about ourselves -- we'll have to worry about it which we you know you'd be but that like that you're going to have tremendous health consequences whether it's."

Play from 11:46[11:46]" You know mental emotional or physical and we have to devote -- of attention that I think I think a tremendous amount of attention is being devoted to it probably for some people the feeling is not enough that -- that'll that I think is being remedied I think the mayor. As so he's going to do everything you can to try and figure out how you can help people that will legitimately harmed by it I think we still don't know the scope of that this this whole mental and emotional impact is something is sometimes people don't feel for 5678 years so probably assume more than it. And I think to help should be there to get people get people through it and the best thing just be open about an honest about it and to dented and two try to learn from. Thank you -- thank you"

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